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 Please stay off San Juan Trail!
Please stay off San Juan trail. You are ruining it. If this keeps up I will have to close it permanently.


Posted by MisterHide a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Pacific from Compton on 03/20/06


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  •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
    Ok. Sorry.
    Posted by GRide on 03/22/06

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  •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
    That means you, HerbnRider!

    You and your dirty, horrible music listening DH buddies are tearing up.....the dirt!!! Your fat DH tires are creating huge ruts because none of you know how to modulate your brakes.

    If you can't ride up it, don't ride it at all.....Beeeotch!!!!

    PS: Which Cliff bar tastes the best when you have the munchies?

    Posted by DCanadian a 33 year old on 03/22/06


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    •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
      Why do there have to be so much jokers on this bored? Please face the facts that the trail is getting riuned and that you should stay off of it otherwise it will have to be closed.

      Posted by MisterHide a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Pacific from Compton on 03/22/06

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      •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
        Why do there have to be so many Chicken Littles on this bored? The trail isn't getting ruined. It's not in danger of being closed. Ruts happen every winter. In fact, due to the high content of granite in the soil, this trail is more resistant to erosion than most any other trail in the area. Unless there are posted signs that state that the trail is closed, it is ok to ride.
        Posted by GRide on 03/23/06

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        •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
          Thanks, Turkey Lurkey..

          ; )
          Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 03/23/06


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          •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
            Becuase of all your commenting I am going to proceed to the authorities to have the trail closed. You probably have not heared that I have a very influencial father in the community.

            Posted by MisterHide a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Pacific from Compton on 03/27/06

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            •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
              You have a Padre on the Pay-0-la ???



              Posted by Freaky franky on 03/27/06


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            •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
              Can you please permanently close Compton while you are at it? We ruined that too.
              Posted by RollnStone a 48 year old riding a Trail Wrecker from Compton on 03/27/06

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            •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
              I haven't 'heared' anything you says...
              Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 03/28/06

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            •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
              I hope your name isn't Greg Haidl. And I hope the "community" you speak of is the United States Department of the Interior, since this is the Cleveland National Forest we're talking about. Good luck and Godspeed.
              Posted by GRide on 03/28/06

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  •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
    " Please stay off San Juan Trail" I thought the signs read, "Please stay ON the trail - revegitation in progress" Go hide, Mr.
    Posted by Intenserider2 a 31 year old riding a VT and an OG Intense Spyder from Colorado on 03/28/06

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    •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
      So when it rains then you are all riding on the trail? I went up to thier (WALKING!) to see that this is going on again. And HOW COME YOU DON'T LISTEN.

      Now I am going to have to start taking to the right people to make this stop once and for good!

      Posted by MisterHide a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Pacific from Compton on 04/05/06


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      •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
        You go take to those people...

        I can pieces of tranquil lights go weather forcast knocking on sunshine.....so there..
        Posted by Crzyridr33 a 34 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a SantaBansheeCruzBlurr on 04/06/06


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      •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
        Is G-Ride gonna have to choke a b!tch?
        Posted by GRide on 04/06/06

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      •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
        So you say to hiked up the trail?

        Wilson and Seney: Hooves and feet erode more than wheels
        In 1994, John Wilson and Joseph Seney of Montana State University published "Erosional Impacts of Hikers, Horses, Motorcycles and Off-Road Bicycles on Mountain Trails in Montana." (12) The study tracked 100 passages by each of the four groups over control plots on two trails in national forests. For some of the passages, the researchers pre-wetted the trail with a fixed quantity of water using a rainfall simulator. The researchers measured sediment runoff, which correlates with erosion.

        Wilson and Seney found no statistically significant difference between measured bicycling and hiking effects. They did find that horses caused the most erosion of the trails, and that motorcycles traveling up wetted trails caused significant impact. They also concluded, "Horses and hikers (hooves and feet) make more sediment available than wheels (motorcycles and off-road bicycles) on prewetted trails and that horses make more sediment available on dry plots as well." (p.74) Wilson and Seney suggested that precipitation will cause erosion even without human travel and this factor may significantly outweigh the effects of travel. Trail design, construction, and maintenance may be much more important factors in controlling erosion.

        Wilson, John P. and Seney, Joseph P., "Erosional Impacts of Hikers, Horses, Motorcycles and Off-Road Bicycles on Mountain Trails in Montana," Mountain Research and Development, (1994), 47(1):77-88.

        You're a misinformed idiot who argues without knowing the facts...


        Posted by BikerJustin a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Giant NRS1 & Scattante Road from Whittier on 04/06/06


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        •  Re: Please stay off San Juan Trail!
          Sorry, So you say YOU hiked up the trail?
          Posted by BikerJustin a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Giant NRS1 & Scattante Road from Whittier on 04/06/06

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