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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable Vertical Epic.
Posted by El Jefe  a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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Fuller's Porter is a darned good beer.
Some brew porters to be way out of style and strong enough to hit you over the head, like a stout. Porters should be subtle, thin and complex and this one is exactly those things. If any brewery can nail a British style, Fullers is it.
Posted by GC on 06/06/05
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Ahh, Stone Smoked Porter. One of my all-time favorites. I had it last night, and followed it up with a very young, but still quite drinkable.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/06/04
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I had Delirium Nocturnum last night. I thought it wasn't quite as smooth as Delirium Tremens, but still more well rounded than Chimay. It was a lovely 9.6% alcohol, disguised quite well by the rich malt and Belgian yeast. Yum.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/04/04
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Speaking of Belgian beers...
So far, a good week in Singapore for sampling Belgians:
1. A couple of Rochefort 10's. 11.3%ABV, but verrrrry smooth. Still my favorite beer of all time. Wish I could find it in the OC. Oh well, gives me something to look forward to on my visits to SingSing.
2. Abbaye de Rocs. Another really good Belgian dark ale, 9%ABV, hints of plum flavor, can't find this one in the OC, either...
3. St. Sebastiaan Grand Cru. Interesting, lighter flavor than the others, but not one I'd look for back home.
4. Some other pale Belgian ale, but by then, who knows what the h*ll I was drinking... I think it was a Rodenbach
Though the beer was good, for sure, it was probably the strangest night for food I've ever had. Here's a rundown of the food consumed while sampling the brews:
1. Raw octopus (pretty good, very sushi-like)
2. Raw oysters (not my thing)
3. Steamed New Zealand green mussels with plenty of garlic
4. Four kinds of German sausage + sourkraut + potato salad
5. Roast rabbit (very mild and good)
6. Grilled kangaroo ribs (ugggghhh... very gamey, like mutton from h*ll)
7. Pork knuckle (a bit stronger taste than carnitas, darker meat, but tasty)
Weird... Next time, I guess we'll have to try the alligator.
Hey, if anyone knows anywhere to find the Rochefort 10 in the OC, post it here please!!!!
Keep riding, stay dirty (token mtb content...)
Posted by VLander a 45 year old on 11/07/04
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I had a Diabolique Cuvee last night. I believe the alcohol content is close to Delirium Nocturnum, but not quite as malty. A bit more of a pilsner type, with a nice Belgian trappist finish. One of those big bottles definitely goes a long way.
Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices.
Tomorrow night is James Squire Australian Amber with a couple shots of Corallejo Anejo tequila.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old on 11/04/04
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"Tonight is Father's Office...many good choices."
Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Right. ;-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/08/04
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Last night I celebrated our democracy with a La Fin Du Monde.
Looking forward to FO! FO! FO! FO!
Posted by Black Bart on 11/04/04
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Yes, Utah. Where the women aren't nearly as mormon as they may seem to be at first....
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/02/04
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Sorry, my bad.....or should I say, my baaaaaaaad. :-)
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old on 11/02/04
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A few of the winter seasonals are trickling in. Tried the Deschutes 'Jubelale' last week, pretty darn tasty. Preferred by 9 out of 10 goat herders, at least the ones that frequent Bev-Mo.
Posted by Ezyrider2 on 11/02/04
yum, beer!
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I haven't had the Deschutes. Thanks for the heads-up.
I did just go buy my bottles of the '04 DB, and here's the obligatory MTB-reference....
pix:https://www.stonebrew.com/Merchant2/graphics/dbjers.jpg
Posted by EBasil on 11/02/04
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Hey, the link didn't show! (but shows up on the reply!?!)
link:http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/BrewPub/OnTap/5811.aspx
Posted by Ezyrider2 riding a cozy seat from da pub on 11/02/04
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My suggestion is that we all view the site after finding and consuming seasonal microbrews. Anchor's Christmas Ale is still a few weeks away...but Stone opened the OAKED today...
Posted by EBasil on 11/01/04
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Tried a Diabolique from Andelot Proefbrouwerij (Belgium) over the weekend. $5.99 at TJ's for a 750ml bottle, so it's a cheap Chimay substitute.
I liked it, you may too.
(just need to get this thread back up on the board)
Posted by Black Bart a 32 year old Die-hard Enthusiast from Santa Monica on 11/01/04
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I'll have to try it. Are you working all week? I'm on hiatus if you wanna ride sometime. I'm also defenitely going to FO sometime this week.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 11/01/04
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While I was attending to a loved one in the hospital, I brought with me a Guinness pub draught can. Nothing like drinking in a hospital room!
Posted by El Jefe  on 03/10/04
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Now that I have given up XC for the darkside, every beer is a good one. And there are lots more of em too.
The next 24hr race is gonna be a blast.
Posted by Softy on 03/10/04
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Just got back from AZ with a six of New Belian Fat Tire and 1554 Dark Ale, Oak Creek Nut Brown and Mogollon Wapiti Amber. The inside of my fridge looks just as scenic as Sedona.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/15/04
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Ya gotta love a fridge with that kind of scenery. Hey Endo, if you need your refridgerater cleaned out I would be happy to oblige.
Posted by DIRTJUNKIE a 42 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense UZZI-SL from Rancho Bernardo on 03/16/04
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Oh, this is nice. Coming home from a nice hot ride and popping open a cold Fat Tire.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 03/20/04
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Anderson Valley Hop Ottin' IPA is great stuff."Brewed from the finest hops, malted barley, hops, yeast, hops, and pristine Boonville mineral water. And hops."Weighing in at 7% Alc. by vol., it'll make you very hoppy.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ from Santa Monica on 04/07/04
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Are you an IPA fan? Got more you want to bust out for review?
I had a mild IPA at Karl Strauss yesterday during brunch. Well, I had three, but that's only because I am a wildman drinker...or something like that. Not much as IPA's go, but it was a damn fine clean Pale Ale!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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Have you ever tried the Acme IPA? Not a bad one at all. Hopped a little more than a typical IPA, but very tasty with a stronger finish than you'd get out of a typical IPA.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/12/04
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Yes! I have two more of those in the fridge. I like the hopping for bitterness, but the Acme doesn't seem to have the aromatics it "should" for an IPA. It's a little lighter in body than many...great for tossing down in hot weather. Last night, we had them with smoked tri-tip.
BevMo is our ambassador to the world!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/12/04
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The Acme is good, but IPA over a month in bottle will start to lose any dry hop aroma (that real hoppy or citrusy nose and flavor immediately present). IPA is best very young or out of the keg so that the aroma stays with it.
Tried a Hoptown IPA last night. It was an English style (use of a Burton's style yeast, producing fruity esters) and bitter. They used some of a "C" hop (prob. a Cascade) for the citrus nose to tease the fruit flavor that would fill the palate on the way down. Good. Unfortunately, it had the same lack of true hop nose like you described.
Posted by GC on 04/13/04
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I'll look up that Hoptown IPA at my local liquour store.
Posted by STP a 45 year old Racer riding a K2 Razorpig from P'dale on 04/13/04
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Agreed, had a draft Anderson IPA at The Library last night. It was, of course, better than from the bottle. Followed that with a Stone Pale Ale (I know, sorta backwards, I was thinking of going with the Bastard but one IPA on an empty stomach was already doin the trick). It took a few swigs to clear the palate, but a decent Pale Ale.
Both are excellent with the turkey meatloaf.
Posted by Black Bart on 04/14/04
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Next time you're headed to the Library, shoot me an email. I have some studying to do. nothing like meeting face to face with SoCalmtb'ers over a couple beers and some quality entertainment.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/14/04
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That's icky!
nice Sleestack sighting though!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 04/14/04
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Whoa, looks like some best beer posts were removed. 1 Chimay red label, and one Arrogant Bastard for this evening, please.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/14/04
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Not sure if we're talking about the same place, Library Ale House on Main in Santa Monica. But hey, if you wanna swing up here for a beer, that's cool. I think I owe you one!
Posted by Black Bart from Santa Monica on 04/14/04
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Just picked up a Hop Ottin at TJ's. I'm ot much of an IPA guy, but I'll check it out and get back to ya.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/12/04
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Review: not bad. Not as hoppy as I had expected and it had pleasantly sweet after-tones. It tasted 'lighter' than I expected. I was missing the full flavor that accompanies the bold hops in something like Arrogant Bastard. I'm not an IPA fan or know enough about them to really say yay or nay to this except that I think I need to buy another Hop Ottin or two just to make sure.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/14/04
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Ha, yeah, better make sure. When you're at TJ's pick up a couple of Anderson's Boont Amber Ale, if you have not tried it. Delicious!
I'm in AZ right now, so I'm enjoying some Fat Tire. mmmmm
Posted by Black Bart on 04/14/04
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Bashtard! Hey, could you bring me back two bottles of Mogollon Wapiti Amber and some New Belgium 1554 Dark Ale? Pretty please? :-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/14/04
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Hmmm, how many bottles are allowed as carryon luggage? Will a 12 pack fit under the seat?
Posted by Black Bart on 04/16/04
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So, I forgot to bring any back with me. The good news is, I'll have nice cold Fat Tire waiting in the fridge next time I visit my mom. :)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 05/17/04
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This dropped *way* to far off the list...
Looking forward to EzyRider2's suds taste-fest manana.
Which will become the new "session beer?" (Hate to think that FireRock will get bumped from it's current lofty position...)
The suspense is killin' me...
Posted by VLander on 08/18/04
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Here's the low down; 4 levels, 3 beers each, blind taste test. Moves from low octane to high.
Round I: 'Some Light, Some Not'
Round II: 'Clash of the Pale Ales'
Round III: 'Time For Some Ass Kickers'
Round IV: 'Break Out the Dark and Nasty'
This should be interesting. Suds are in the frig, and a chillin away. Gentlemen, start your taste buds.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a BevMo Especial from Hop City, USA on 08/18/04
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Had some dogfish head 120 min IPA last night. They had a note on the chalkboard at the bar that it was the strongest beer in the world at 24.6% ABV. Lol. It was actually quite good, surprisingly! It better be at $13/12oz bottle. I doubt you'd need to drink more than one at a sitting though.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Hey, we were talking about this brew not too long ago. When I called Dogfish, they couldn't come up with anywhere in California that distributed or "has" the 120min IPA. Where'd you get to try it?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/15/04
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I was at a place near the Redondo Beach pier called Najas. They have quite a selection there...
http://www.redondo.com/business/najas.html
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/15/04
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Gotta love Najas...on a similar note--
Lucky Baldwins has a Barleywine Festival that runs from the 17th to the 25th.
Stone Old Guardian on tap, Bigfoot, etc.
See ya'll there.
Posted by Surly a 28 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a '02 Giant AC from Pasadena on 04/18/04
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Check out Liquid Solutions on the web. Lots of good stuff, a bit pricey, but if you want it, they got it!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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Found it. Yeah, $8.75 for a 12 oz. of the Dogfish 120 IS steep. Amazing beer list, though. I will have to go back and play on that site sometime. Thanks for the tip!
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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Ok,
My favorite current beers are:
Lagunitas-The Kronic (Censored) Rich Copper Ale and 7.7%ABV. Careful with this one, you can't taste the alcohol at all. Rich carmel taste and verrrrrryyyyy smoooov...
040404 Stone Vertical Epic - A good, young, Abbey Trippel with a kick of lime and citrusy flavors. Should age very well if you can keep from drinking it!! 8.5%ABV and very tastey, if you can find it, buy as much as you can and let it age...
Lastly, besides the usual suspects (Ruination IPA and Double Bastard) I tried a Moylans Kilt Lifter, Scotch Ale. Very good, strong chocolate and caramel scents, and great warm mouthfeel. Not particulary bitter or complex, but very, very, drinkable; but, at 8% ABV, you might be advised to go easy!!
Posted by IMTony a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Intense Tracer, SLX and Spot SS from Temecula on 04/18/04
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all very good brews!
I went to pick up some Vertical Epic & my local Bristol Farms told me they got ONE case and one guy bought 6 and a chick came in the next day and bought the other 6 (should I have asked if she was single???)
no Vert for me, unless I can find more in another shop on the Westside...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 04/19/04
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I have to admit, I won't be laying these down to wait for the intended Vertical Epic consumption method. That's fun, but I just don't have the refrigerator to dedicate to the right temperatures for several years. I've been using a one-year rule, to let the ales settle-in, because I don't think they'll be near to the intended result when consumed in the year of their labeling.
I did multi-year laydowns of Thomas Hardy, Sierra Nevada Celebration and several homebrews in the 80/90's but my folks won't let me monopolize their spare fridge anymore.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/19/04
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The bottle of Deus JimN got me for my birthday a couple weeks ago went right into the wine rack.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/19/04
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I have space I can loan you. I'll keep a close watch on proper serving temperature, too. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/19/04
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Yeah, uh, that sounds a lot like how I found out my folks didn't want to leave me with sole use of their fridge. My Dad commented to me about one of the beers he drank. I actually drove to LA with a cooler the next morning to perform an extraction (with extreme prejudice).
Now, I only stock their "spare" fridge with what I can easily replace from the Green Jug or whatnot.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/20/04
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Tons in OC at Bev Mo.
Haven't tried it yet, too young to drink. Cellaring a few bottles for a bit...
Posted by GC on 04/19/04
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The Guinness-bike, as reported in BRAIN:
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 04/20/04
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Sad news in the beer world:
Today it was announced that Canada's Sleeman Breweries is acquiring Unibroue:
http://www.unibroue.com/brewery/040420.pdf
To me, this is not encouraging news. Sleeman is Canada's third largest brewer, although considerably smaller than Molson and Labatt. They brew several beers that are unremarkable to my taste and have the distribution rights to a number of import brands in Canada. Unibroue is unique in North American brewing, with its own distinctive Quebecois attitude and accent, and brews several outstanding Belgian styles that have rather wide distribution in Canada and the US.
I might look upon the deal more favorably if Sleeman had acquired the rights only to distribute the Unibroue beers in English-speaking Canada, but Sleeman's attitude about beer in general is much less experimental and you have to wonder if the innovation in styles will continue.
C'est la vie, as I'm sure someone is saying.
Posted by GC on 04/20/04
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Noooo!
Well, as long as they keep brewing Maudite I will be happy.
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/21/04
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Their history of acquisition and brand consolidation may mean the end to some of those great beers. Every brewery/brand they've touched has been "dumbed down" for mass markets or eliminated.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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Although this might seem like a bad thing, a crappy beer producer buying a great beer producer, Sleeman will probably not change any of Unibroues beer formulas. If they wanted to make more crappy beer they would probably just expand their current production facility or buy another crappy beer brand.
These mergers have been a happening alot in the wine world and usually it is for the better, unless the company is bought by Gallo, then it goes to crap.
Posted by Uhkuhjillion a 28 year old Cross-Country riding a a Jereboam of Arogant Bastard from Pasadena on 04/21/04
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You've hit it on the head, Steelman is the Gallo of beers.
They are known for sliming lines down to only the most pedestrian and killing styles and techniques of good breweries like Le Signeurale and Upper Canada (other breweries that they've purchased and dumbed down).
This is akin to Miller buying Stone.
Posted by GC on 04/21/04
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Alrighty.... I know it's only 2pm on a Thursday afternoon but I had a six pack in the fridge staring at me. And what better to go with a hummus platter for lunch than an Avery White Rascal served in a Belgian glass. Simple and to the point- tastes like Chimay but at a fraction of the price. Maybe a slightly less sweet and a bit more hops and do I dare say I like this better?. It's brewed with coriander and orange peel, but you could have fooled me as they're no where on my palate. I give it two thumbs up. Ok, back to work.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a early afternoon buzz on 04/22/04
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Great idea.
I think I'll have a schwarzbier and go pee on the lawn for Earth Day. All will be right with the world...
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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Can we load lemons into the pneumatic tube gun and fire them at the wall? That would be a great way to celebrate as well!!! :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 04/22/04
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Only after having a few beers.
Weapons like that are only safe after drinking. ;) I'll have to get a couple more out of aging for more shooting, though. Cream Ale? Stouts? IPA's? Yep, all 18 kegs are filled...
Hey, are you going? I'll be there with my club...good stuff:
http://www.calhomebrewers.org/event.html
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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Updated link.
Oh yeah, why fire at the wall when that sucker will go a good 300 yards? The wall is way too close. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/22/04
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What the hell is going on here? How could this thread get pushed down so far? Have we no new beer stories? No new beer discoveries?
My new regimen is to grab a big bottle of Chimay and a 220z bottle of Arrogant Bastard. I drink the Chimay first, bathing in the delicate beauty of the fruity yeast esters and the rich malt. Then I grab that Arrogant Bastard and slice my taste buds wide open with the raw elegance of the hoppy treasure.
Posted by El Jefe on 04/27/04
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Is that breakfast, lunch or dinner? lol
Posted by Mudpuppy a 31 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Cannondale F400 from Southbay on 04/27/04
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I just discovered I pissed off my neighbor Sat. night from being a sloppy drunk; again. You were playing guitar, and I was rambling and offended someone with a song I just made up. Do you remember that part?
Sloppy sloppy sloppy. I have no control, but stories nonetheless. :)
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Dude, that song was hilarious. Of course your yelling and laughing and flopping around on the ground like a wounded walrus probably had nothing to do with the neighbor getting pissed off, right? :-)
BTW, Mudpuppy- that's for all three meals and my late night snack.
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May I have your attention please...... Avery Brewing Co's Old Jubilation Ale tastes like Arrogant Bastard but I like it better. Head over to BevMo, then discuss.
Posted by Endo Verendo on 04/27/04
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Ah yes, but it is members only (not the jacket) at the CA Homebrew Fest tonight. Trick or Treat from club to club to sample their best....oh yeah, it is free. Opening day (and closing day) is tomorrow.
Stone's master brewer is usually there as well as other greats with their private reserve to sample.
Should be a good weekend.....I just hope I remember it. ;)
Posted by GC on 04/30/04
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Do you want some company? I am a Food Scientist who will give you a solid opinion; even after hours and hours of sampling. ;)
(I'm jealous, sounds fun)
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Just picked up some Deschutes Obsidian Stout fron BevMo (and some roasted salsa)
Don't hate the drinka.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a tall glass of pleasure from around here somewhere on 04/30/04
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Ah yes, very good times.
If you can make it next year, it is worth the trip.
I had some private stash of some great brewers. Amazing beers. Around the campfire one night one of our new found friends broke out the past six years of Big Foot Barleywine from Sierra Nevada. We opened them up, year by year, and all sampled the aged barleywines and compared the differences. '97 was a good year.
Just a short list of the amazing beers we sampled:
orange blossom porter
a vanilla belgian
an amazing tripple
a couple of really good IPA's
milk stout
many good meads
All were done by homebrewers or pros' homemade stash.
There was one really interesting contraption there that I had read about from Dogfish Head. They had made a "hop filter" that would force beer through about six pounds of hops just prior to serving. It did add some aroma, but what it added took away in coldness, as it wasn't a chilled unit. Interesting concept but I think the basic technique of dry hopping is more effective.
Great times and good beers, not to mention a fantastic learning experience if you brew or like good beer.
Posted by GC on 05/03/04
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Sweet! How can I be your friend? ;) I could really get into a weekend like that.
The head brewmaster at SLO Brewing Co. and I were going through our senior year Food Science classes up at Cal Poly SLO. I would help him brew for SLO brewery and home brew too. Ahhh, so much fun.
We would visit the Wildhorse Winery in Paso Robles, and brew beer by the keg! We would heat up the wort under a big burner in a keg, and do it that way; by the keg... Then, we would of course sample it with many others and have ourselves a very good time.
I need to get back into that personally. It is a great hobby to get into, especially when you know what is happening in the process.
Thanks for sharing, I am sure many people here wish they were there. If you have more info, please post it. :D
Posted by Lagwagon on 05/03/04
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The more the merrier, bro. Come on down.
A buddy of mine organizes it and they are moving it to Vail Lake next year, which will be a huge imporvement.
Man, brewing at a winery....what could be better. Yep, keg as a kettle is the only way to go. I brew in a keg and it just makes it so much easier.
Let's get you back in! For a couple of peppers (cherry and jalepeno spread) I could be convinced to help with the learning curve. ;)
Posted by GC riding a A big wheel from Anaslime Hills on 05/03/04
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Oregons Full Sail Ale is great! :) Purchased at Trader Joe's for $5.99. More info for your reading pleasure:
The Full Sail brewery is located in Hood River, Oregon, in the scenic Columbia River Gorge. Known for its ripping winds, endless mountain bike trails, fast water, and deep snow, the region is "The Adrenaline Capital of the
Northwest".
At Full Sail, we have been making great beer since 1987. We liked our beer so much, that in 1999 we bought the brewery! With each beer we brew comes a promise of quality that only an owner can give.
Full Sail Celebrates Another First (Hood River, OR) The employees at Full Sail Brewing Company are rolling out the barrels to celebrate yet another first. The ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) buyout was finalized July 2, 1999, making Full Sail America's first and only (ESOP) employee-owned brewery, the company announced today.
Full Sail is the only brewery to have ever been named to the "Best 100 Companies to Work For, in Oregon" list by Oregon Business Magazine and have maintained that distinction for five consecutive years. Full Sail brews a line of handcrafted ales and lagers including the award-winning Full Sail Amber, Pale and Rip Curl Ale, as well four seasonal brews. Full Sail is available in 15 western states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Washington and Wyoming.
Full Sail Brewing Co.
Posted by Lagwagon on 05/03/04
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Why I love DeSchutes in many of ways.
Quail Springs IPA.
Great start, bitter. Then straight to fruit as Burton's strain of yeast kicks in. Still more hops. The only thing it is missing is a solid dry hop (aroma), as discussed before, which can only happen in a keg. Besides the dry hop, the only really disappointing part of this IPA is the low % @ 5.8. For an IPA that is pretty low. Most hover in the 7% or above range.
Darned good beer, though, and I've never had a bad one from DeSchutes.
Posted by GC on 05/07/04
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Deschutes does not make a bad beer. Plus, they sponsor mountain bikers. I contacted them about that and they without any prompting sent me a bunch of shwag, leather coasters, bike water bottles, bottle openers stickers, ect.
Maybe they knew when I was in Bend last I spent excessive amounts of time at the brewery.
They also have these fixe price dinners pairing their beers with various xlnt cuisine on a semi-monthly basis. Not just one beer and a plate of chow. Several courses with a different brew to match.
We need a place like that in SoCal. Karl Strauss is ok but it ain't Deschutes. Not even close.
GC you got me thinking.
Posted by Mike Kim on 05/20/04
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Hmm, also my birthday month. Coincidence? I think not. :-D
Posted by El Jefe on 05/20/04
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I sampled a little Vertical Epic (this year's release) yesterday. Very young tasting, could use some time to mature, but still a very pleasant brew.
A very light, almost lacy head appears after a soft pour, with the bubbles rising slowly. It seems on initial taste that there is still some bottle conditioning, perhaps a little more noticable fermenting to do, as the first taste is just a bit harsh and over the top. The yeast flavors play a bit heavy compared to the malt and hops flavors, very different than most Stone creations where the hops take the spotlight. The yeast flavors are quite similar to a belgian tripel, some vanilla and pineapple, almost a bubblegum taste at times, countered by a bit of lemon-lime and some clove. The heavy alcohol keeps the beer from sitting on the tongue too long, and helps it feel clean and refreshing. I definitely would call this a very young, immature beer, that will likely develop some serious character in a couple years. Still, I could toss back a couple 22oz bottles on a hot day, and then bask in a drunken stupor under a warm southern California sun.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 06/01/04
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We drank our 02,03 and 04 Verts on Saturday, because we needed to make room...ending the "laydown program" with finality.
Nice writeup on the 04. I can only generally agree, and would add that the 02 and 03 improved mightily over their wait (I used to laydown beers quite a bit and think the first two years are the "sprint" section of the process),and that 04 shouldn't have been opened yet.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/01/04
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I have one in the fridge I'll drink soon just for fun, but I'll pick up 2 more to laydown for a couple years. I can't see waiting till 12-12-2012 to drink it, but a couple years should do some wonderful things.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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Jeff, please pick up a few extras for me - I can't find it up here anywhere....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/02/04
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Will do. I found it for about $6 a bottle, about a buck less than other places. They kep it refridgerated and in a dark area, so no light contamination will occur. I'll swing by there this evening.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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Perfect, I'll even try not to drink them for a while...
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/02/04
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Wow, just checked my spelling and typing on that last post...not so good. I have a bad case of allergies going on right now that is causing my eyes to swell badly, so I typed that last post with my eyes closed....again, not so good.
Anyway, I'd planned on keeping both bottles stored for a while, but that idea lasted about 10 minutes, and I caved on the first bottle. (closing my swollen eyes, having a few beers and listening to some music, was quite nice this weekend). I think if I buy a whole bunch, I can keep at least one for next year...I think I can, I think I can...
Posted by El Jefe on 06/02/04
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mmmmm....Chimay. Good stuff. There are too many good beers out there to pick just one "best," but along with Chimay I'd have to include Guinness, Arogant Bastard, Icicle Creek Stout (from Oregon.) And Oggi's Black Magic Stout is surprisingly good - dark and chocolaty. Yum.
Posted by Blackwell a 35 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Tomac -Shooter from Mission Viejo on 05/25/04
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I hit Oggi's once in a while, and all of their of age staff hits my bar at least a couple times a week. Russ hooks me up with the Black Magic...good stuff indeed.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/25/04
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Kelly McCue's in Mission Viejo. I'm only there on Sunday nights as a bartender, and I typically hang out there on Monday nights to play at open mic night...this Summer I'll be hosting open mic night where musicians come in and play and people drink beer. Good fun.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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Hmm.. you play guitar too I see.
Interesting. Presuming you are a righty, do you guard your left hand in crashes?
Posted by Mike Kim on 05/26/04
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Nope. In fact I broke my left index finger about a month ago. I just taped it up for a couple weeks and had to avoid certain chord progressions till the swelling went down, but I keep plucking away. Still a little swollen and tender, but I heal quickly.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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You should have re-phrased your question "Where do you tend to your wounds?" :-)
Posted by Endo Verendo on 05/26/04
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You just shut up.
You're right, but shut up anyway. ;-)
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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I didn't think they had any "of age" staff - they look like a bunch of high school kids. I think I'm just getting old.
Posted by Blackwell a 35 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Tomac 6-Shooter from Mission Viejo on 05/26/04
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Well, many are under-age, but quite a few are over 21. You're getting old brah.
Posted by El Jefe a 34 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 05/26/04
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I was in Performance the other day and noted they've got a Canari jersey for Oggi's Sunset Red.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/01/04
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Picked up a sixer of Mendocino Brewing Company's "Eye of the Hawk" from TJ's yesterday, had one after my ride last night. First impression was that it was not as flavorful as I was expecting and just a tad on the flat side. This one packs an 8% punch though, so while enjoying my second one I forgot about its shortfalls and decided it was a pretty darn good beer. :^D
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Sugar+ and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 05/26/04
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I can also speak of shoulder injury, eating, drinking and fatness.
Hey, Vertical Epic down here for ya brah, when ya coming to get it?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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no WAY brah! you are gonna win whatever new horror show in Aliso is coming up, remember? or will you instead build up the new V-10 and stack it high & hard? We're all on the edge of our seats here brah!
Gonna have to work on getting down there and pick up the Vert before you decide to "de-cellar" it ;-)
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/04/04
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Well, we all know how good I am at rapid, unplanned "de-cellar-ation."...isn't that how I got the nickname "HLD?"
;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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Hey! I know this guy that knows funny.....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/04/04
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Yeah, but does he know how to rebuild a King hub?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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Don't be bustin' on King hubs if you want to come to "clear out the keggerator 3" beer-fest and bbq. ;)
Yes, this includes a ride, a cream ale, a rye IPA, a bitter IPA, that chocolate stout, the dry stout and a hoppy nut brown.
Dates TBA.
Posted by GC on 06/04/04
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Yeah, separated shoulder. Is there a site or forum just for discussing eating, drinking and gaining weight? You know, preferably one that doesn't have "cliques" or stray off into other topics, like mountain biking or politics?
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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That was my other guess, I may still be a little hazy from hitting my head, vicodin, etc... Is it time for beer yet? :)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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Yes. I think I'll start with a Drop Top, move to a Guinness, have one of the Vertical Epic bottles I bought for Macrider, then move on to another Guinness. Commence drnking!
Posted by El Jefe on 06/04/04
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"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."
"Better listen to him, he's pre-med."
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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Oh hush.
PS-I left my Guinness for a little while, in favor of some other tasty libations, but I must say that last night I re-acquainted myself with an old friend...Ahhhhh, Guinness.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/08/04
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Oh YEAH? Well, my new G5 can crush your little iBook! (Seriously, it's like 50 lbs.) :^)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/08/04
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"Eggless Egg Salad"? WTF? I said WTF!?
Posted by Old Heckler on 06/09/04
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His shorts are nutless, too.
Posted by ReFleXx on 06/09/04
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If you've never had Trader Joes Eggless Egg Salad you should STFU.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/10/04
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Gee, I prefer "egg" in my egg salad. Thanks.
No need to get testy, jobless one.
Posted by Old Heckler on 06/10/04
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you DO need to get some work, don't ya? that is an empty fridge bro...
despite what the HLD will tell you, beer, beer & more beer is not a "healthy part of a balanced diet"
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/09/04
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Shut up. A balanced diet includes lagers, pilsners, stouts, barley wine and of course pale ale.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/09/04
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If Mac knew anything about camera angles he'd realize that one would have to move the food out of the way to get a shot of the beer lineup.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/10/04
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I only know when they look bad brah....
"whoa! what the hell was this supposed to be a shot of?"
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/10/04
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Sorry, the correct answer was, "...grate cheese."
 
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/10/04
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Ok, about my blog.... I just got a new iBook and due to some new 'digi cam etiquette' with the new machine I inadvertantly zapped my memory stick. So all the pics I was going to Blog are now in heaven.
Ok, now Beer.... Marin Brewing's Eldridge Grade Double IPA: Ya'll know I'm not an IPA fan, but this stuff's the sh!t. Not overly hoppy as I thought and the 8% ABV makes it extra special. That and the mountain bike theme make this is a great after ride beer. (BevMo)
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/04/04
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speaking of beer...I make some delicious spaghetti carbanara last night & washed it down with a Stone Barley Wine - that sh*t is DOPE! (in both meanings - killed a big bottle and was well on my way to loopey)
very tasty brew - I'm looking forward to Monday's release of the Imperial Stout - one of my fav's!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/11/04
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My trip to the store this evening included the following:
3 bottles of Stone Vertical Epic
1 bottle of Stone Barley Wine
1 bottle of Stone Smoked Porter
1 bottle of Stone Ruination IPA.
What to drink tonight? Ahhh, decisions decisions....and a $32+ 6 pack....that packs one helluva punch! :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/11/04
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Yeah, but tell me you only drank 3 of those...
Unless you implemented that "coors refilling" idea you mentioned in another thread. Maybe toss a spring of rosemary and some black pepper in there, too, just to make sure it's extra tasty in a few years?
Posted by EBasil a old year old riding a Mass-Produced Bikle from San Diego on 06/14/04
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Where are you buying the Sonora brews?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT to BevMo from San Diego on 06/04/04
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Found 'em at TJ's.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/04/04
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http://www.arrogantbastard.com/animated/index.html
Posted by Mytrustysteed on 06/14/04
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that is HOT!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/14/04
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Best Beer I hit the boards. "Silly people. Beer is just a drink, not a religion." ...or so I thought.
Best Beer II, III, IV went by. "Okay, so this is getting ridiculous." GAL, beerheads...
Best Beer V arrives. "Well, maybe I'll have to do a little research, see what all the fuss is about."
Now, this is what my extra fridge in the garage looks like:
Current stock: Chimay Red Ale, Sierra Nevada Summerfest Lager, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Buffalo Bill's Orange Blossom Cream Ale, Bass Ale, Blue Moon Belgian White Ale, Red Hook ESB, Pacifico, Pete's Strawberry Blonde, Pete's Wicked Ale, Stone IPA, Stone Pale Ale.
Conspicuously absent: Celebrator Dopplebock, my current fave. (I get home from BevMo and it mysteriously disappears in front of my eyes!)
Life used to be so simple: triple espresso in the morning, triple espresso after lunch, a Pacifico or two on the weekend, occasional margarita with a nice Mexi meal.
Now, I find myself daydreaming at work... imagining the taste of a full-flavored ale running down my throat ...sniffing the fine chocolatey aroma of my favorite dopplebock ...imagining it swirling around in my mouth after that first sip...
I hate you all!!!
Posted by VLander a 45 year old riding a 5* from Viejoland on 06/14/04
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Ahh hah , I got you back for giving me a sickness too, the MHC. Some how I think you still won.
4 0f 10 and counting.
Eric AKA Blow Bijou
Posted by Softy on 06/14/04
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THere's way too many non-alcoholic beverages in there.
Posted by ReFleXx on 06/15/04
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Welcome to the dark side.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/15/04
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Hey VLander, care to make a side wager on the SSDoP? That bottle of Chimay is looking pretty tasty....
Posted by El Jefe on 06/15/04
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Dear Sir,
Please remove the Mexican piss-beer from the rear corner of the top shelf in your fridge ASAP. There is danger in that it may suck all flavor from your other, much more superior, beers.
Thank you,
The Hop Police
Posted by GC on 06/16/04
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(not defending Pacifico) but with Mexican food? I do like XX Amber or Negro Modelo....
mmmmm, Carnitas at Sabrosso and a couple of cold XX on tap...soooo good!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/16/04
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I was in AZ over the weekend and payed a visit to the Rio Salado Brewery.
Every Saturday at 1pm, president and brewmaster Tim Gossack, former brewmaster at Deschutes Brewery in Bend, Oregon, leads a brewery tour and tasting. This guy really knows his stuff when it comes to the history of beer and how it's made, much more informative (and tastier) than some Budweiser brewery tour. In addition to being an owner/brewer, he is also a judge for the Great American Beer Festival and the World Beer Cup.
The tour and samples are free (8 kinds last weekend) as long as it's your first tour, or you bring someone new. Happy hour (no food served) 'til 6, open until 11 on most nights.
Minutes from South Mountain, so you can work it into a riding weekend!
(I also understand Tim sponsors some MTB racers)
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/15/04
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Well, starting at 5:30 a.m. would give you 7.5 hours of riding before the brewery opens, sounds about right to me... :)
Or, just keep it in mind for the fall.
Posted by Black Bart a 31 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Heley&Weber sling and a Schwinn Cruiser Seven from Santa Monica on 06/16/04
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speaking of recovered enough - I'm hurting this morning!
Father's Office last night - started with "Horny Devil" - 10.8%! - VERY tasty Belgian-style tripple! - moved on to Merdasous 8% - also quite good, slight hint of chocolate - enjoyed it with the burger & fries (still the best burger around - no ketchup, thanks). Then a Chimay (it's on tap! how can you resist?) - and finished up with somebody's "White Sage" beer - delicious! actually brewed with white sage - it should be the official beer of the Santa Monicas since it smells like the chaparal after it rains....so tasty
but man that combo of strong beers is hurting this morning!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/17/04
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Chimay on tap... hmmm, do they agitate the keg to incorporate the yeast sediment, or is that all blown out in the first few pours? Part of the appeal of Chimay for me is the yeast.
You know what? I should investigate this myself.... :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/17/04
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Please apply for a 310 pass ASAP.;-)
Thank you have a good day.
Paz Afuera
Posted by Papisimo on 06/17/04
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I have a yeast infection, can you investigate that for me, pretty please.
Posted by Adri Anne on 06/17/04
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LOL. I had a girlfriend who got yeast infections from drinking too much Widmer Hefewiezen. Take some acidophilus!
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/17/04
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it's good, that's all I know
yes, investigate at will - but leave the ketchup in the OC...
I think the white sage was from Pasadena - if it was this, no wonder I was toasted - another tripple in disguise!
http://www.worldofbeer.com/totm/totm-200103.html
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/17/04
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Whoa. FO visit needs to happen soon!
Posted by El Jefe on 06/17/04
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They defenitely changed the formula for Tripple White Sage. I used to get it all the time at FO then you couldn't find it anywhere for a while. Now there's something 'dull' about it and not as good as it used to be.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/17/04
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I thought it was great - of course, after having the other three first, I would have thought one of Wadsworth's "Tall Boys" were great!
it had a nice spice to it & the aroma of sage was really distinct...this was my first tasting though, so I have no basis of comparison
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/17/04
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Looks like I'm gonna have to get drunk again tonight....damn.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/16/04
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DAMN! I gotta get over to Bristol Farms & buy all they got!
It's one of my favorites!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/16/04
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I have 3 Vertical Epic bottles sitting in my cupboard (2 are for you). Where you riding on Saturday?
Posted by El Jefe on 06/16/04
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probably rock climbing with the girl...save those Epics for me!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/16/04
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Every week they sit in my cupboard, one more has the potential to disappear....I don't know that yours will make it. Sorry brah. ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/16/04
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! THEY'RE TOO YOUNG TO DIE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/16/04
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Certainly a good turn.
About a month ago, I was out with buddies, wives and girlfriends for a dinner/drinkin/dancin night and knew my fizzy-beer buddies would try to make me exceed a reputed 2-beer limit, so I used preemptive strategy and bought the first round...of Black & Tans, which we stuck with all night. Worked out well, and they liked 'em.
Friday, at a beer-tasting party, one of them mentioned that now he orders black-n-tans or Guiness at bars with his work buddies, because "it's like a meal in a glass". (Reminded me of an ad campaign, I think.) Mission 1, accomplished.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/21/04
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I love hearing people say "Oh no, I don't like Guinness, it's too thick." I then ask if they've ever tried it. "No, but it just looks thick..." Then they sip the tasty brew, and most often come away saying "wow, that's not nearly what I thought it would be..." followed often by "that's pretty good." OK, sometimes they hand it back and cringe, and sometimes they like it so much that they run away with my beer and I have to go get another. I am an ambassador for the nation of Guinness.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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it's got so much more flavor in Ireland & Great Britain - why is that? - do they make it different for export to the US?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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Guinness is brewed multiple places in the world now, and I'm not sure where the Guinness we drink here is brewed...could just be that transport and storage makes it less yummy.
Oh yeah, speaking of Guinness brewery, it reminds me of a story:
An Accident at the Guinness Brewery Mary O'Malley is home making dinner, as usual, when Patrick Finnegan arrives at her door. "Mary, may I come in?" he asks. "I've sometin' to tell ya."
"Of course you can come in, you're always welcome, Patrick. But where's me husband?"
"That's what I'm here to be tellin' ya, Mary. There was an accident down at the Guinness brewery..."
"Oh, God no!" cries Mary. "Please don't tell me..."
"I must, Mary. Your husband Shamus is dead and gone. I'm sorry."
Finally, she looked up at Patrick. "How did it happen, Patrick?"
"It was terrible, Mary. He fell into a vat of Guinness Stout and drowned."
"Oh dear Jesus! But you must tell me true, Patrick. Did he go quickly?"
"Well, I'm afraid no Mary, ... they say he got out three times to pee."
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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IANAFOYGJ
you do the math....
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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That's virtually EXACTLY how it goes for me, too. Well, except that nobody gets away with my beer. I may be decrepit, but I have very developed forearms.
Posted by EBasil riding a beerwagon to hades from San Diego on 06/21/04
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I drink for free, so it's ok when people run off with it. I mean, it is better to give a pint and create a fan for life, than to horde my (free) pint and lose the chance at converting someone to the "dark side."
I'll ignore the developed forearms statement....for now.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/21/04
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Did Fathers Day with the family down at Sea World where they serve free Anheiser Busch samples. Tried their version of Guiness, nitrogen charged even. I'm sure you can all guess what it tasted like. Needless to say I had to wash it down with some Michelob Ultra.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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so it's your favorite beer, right Lane?
are you also dressing up as a girl? along with pretending to be one with your handle Matt/Ghost/etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum....?
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/21/04
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""Michelob Ultra." How extremely lame."
Yes, thanks for re-stating my obvious point.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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We went through that desperate "Beer School" just once...and it was so dumbed down and bland that it wasn't worth the free minibuzz. Hey, but how's a guy to know unless he checks it out?
Posted by EBasil riding a trike on the highway to hell from San Diego on 06/21/04
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Well, since it was a family trip I had to down as many samples as I possibly could and get my buzz on quick.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/21/04
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New "Beer School" in San Diego County:
Stone plans $10 million brewery in Escondido
By David Washburn
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 22, 2004
Stone Brewing Co. announced plans yesterday to build a $10 million brewery in Escondido's new business park.
The 50,000-square-foot facility, scheduled to open late next year in the Escondido Research and Technology Center, will make it possible for the brewery to produce six times as much beer as it does now, said Stone co-founder and CEO Greg Koch.
Known for its Arrogant Bastard Ale, Stone is the largest brewery in San Diego with an output of 34,000 barrels a year. With its new facility, the company will have the capacity for more than 200,000 barrels a year.
But Koch, who announced the company's plans at a news conference with Escondido city leaders, said he is in no rush to meet that goal.
"Growing to 200,000 is not important," he said. "Continuing to brew beer that meets our standards is what dictates the growth."
Koch also wants the brewery to be more accessible to beer lovers. The current San Marcos location is only open to the public for a few hours on the weekends, and visitors must dodge forklifts on their tours.
The new brewery will offer tours and tastings six days a week and may also serve food.
"We are expecting to become a leading tourist destination in North County," Koch said.
Posted by SheRides on 06/22/04
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Best news all week!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/22/04
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Darn, still too far away. And not even on my way down to SD.
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 06/22/04
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A quick left on the I-78, roll across to the brewery, then a right turn on southbound I-15 to San Diego, proper.
If these guys get a brewpub license, it could be deadly.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/22/04
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"...the founders of Stone have put the word out to other microbrewers that the 26,500-square-foot space off of Rancheros Drive, along with all the equipment, will soon be up for grabs."
Along with all the equipment.
Okay, three things:
1) who's gonna step up and go hardcore with the homebrewing?
2) will another brewer locate in San Marcos?
3) don't sweat it...Stone's transferring operations to all new equipment when they move, so there's no downtime.
Posted by EBasil riding a Russian Imperial Stout buzz from San Diego on 07/06/04
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"...the founders of Stone have put the word out to other microbrewers that the 26,500-square-foot space off of Rancheros Drive, along with all the equipment, will soon be up for grabs."
I'm going to commit this sentence to memory, and shout it while touching myself.
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 07/06/04
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What I meant to say was...
Old habits die hard: my favorite of all the Belgian ales I love is still Orval, a Trappist ale.
In my "screw around on the net for lunch" break, I decided to see if there were an Orval cycling jersey about... no luck.
But, check THIS out for beer access: http://www.belgianshop.com/shop/
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 06/23/04
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There's nothing like Lucifer Belgian Ale..
I will continue to boost the hell out of this beer....It rocks...!!!!!!
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 06/23/04
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Last night I had a "Barley Wine Style" ale from Avery Brewing, Boulder, Colorado called Hog Heaven Barley Wine. It comes in at 9.2% ABV. The head was off-white, and very lacy and pronounced for a barley wine. While the label says it has 100+ IBU, it was mostly in the nose and on the front of the sip, with no follow-through or lasting hop impression to balance out the very sweet, malty, somewhat raisin-like taste of the deep amber liquid. The sweetness masked the alcohol taste, and really made this all too drinkable, as I polished off the 22oz bottle in about 10 minutes. I really think they mislabled this beer. It has more character of a rich amber ale with a muthafukka of a punch than a classic barleywine, but I'll give it a big thumbs up for a fun, drinkable brew.
I got it at the liquor store in Lake Forest at Lake Forest and Dimension...it's the place that still hase bottles of Vertical Epic chilling in the cooler. :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 06/24/04
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sounds good, but not great....
my beer/wine guy at my LGS (local grocery store) is ordering me a whole case of the Stone Imperial Stout! 12 bottles - ALL FOR MEEEEEEEE! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 06/24/04
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Sounds like a trade is in order....oh wait, I can get the Imperial Stout anytime I want from Hollingshead's or from the store right down the street from Inkpad's office. I love Stone Brews....I just really really do. My second beer of the night last night was a Stone Smoked Porter. A very very unique tasting Porter, much lighter tasting than most handcrafted porters, but still with a very nice balanced flavor and just a little bit of that Stone hopped finish. I knew it was my last beer of the night, so I took my time with it. My last few sips were at room temp, and it really brought out the roasted malt taste, and got rid of some of the carbonation, making the brew even smoother going down. Very very nice.
Posted by El Jefe on 06/24/04
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I finally found my Stone Imperial Stout - bought 4 so far (I'm gonna get a case - you get a discount by the case!) - I think it's my favorite Stone brew (competing with Double Bastard & the Barley Wine)
damn Stone RULES!
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/02/04
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I have to admit, I really like their lemon wheat beer, though.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT with Acera rims from San Diego on 07/02/04
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Glad to hear. It's the 22 oz early summer 04 release, right? 10.8% or thereabouts. NOW you can have a good 4th!
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/02/04
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yes, that is the one....so tasty! sooooo swerve inducing!
this weekend was ALL about mojitos - gotta love cachacca (sp?)
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/06/04
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I didn't drink at all this past weekend.
Also, I haven't crashed in 6 months.
:-D
Posted by El Jefe a 35 year old riding a Santa Cruz V10 and Blur, Kona Stinky, and a SS Kona Cowan from Trabuco Canyon on 07/07/04
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I picked up a whole case of Imperial Stout, and I'm happy to trade some Vertical Epic, or some Old Guardian for a couple bottles of it. Not that it isn't a good solid brew, but I honestly wasn't blown away like I thought I'd be.
A deep rich color, and deep brown head, but the head was a bit shorter lived than I'd like, and the brew seemed a bit flat as served at 55(ish) degrees, instead of rich and creamy in its carbonation.
The nose was perfect... bitter chocolate, ripe berries, a touch of coffe/roasted malt, anise, and hops. Smooth mouth feel, but not as heavy and thick as d expected, but still very very nice. In tasting the brew, I was disappointed that the subtle anise, berry and alcohol tones were eclipsed by the hop taste, that, while not unpleasant, masked some of the real genius behind this brew. I think letting this one lay down for a year or so could do it some good.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/08/04
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ditto on the lay down, but mine can't be for that long.
No brew shall be consumed before its time, or when we need more space for meat. Whichever comes first.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/08/04
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So far I've liked most brews from Avery. I drink nothing but Reverends now. (10%: yeoow!).
Post #235
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/09/04
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Just stopped by the Mattern Deli in Orange.  A little 'Choucroute Garni' is in order.
Posted by Schecky on 06/25/04
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Spaten OPTINATOR. The name says it all.
Posted by Softy on 06/26/04
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It starts to look appetizing, but all the lint just wrecks the mood.
Let me know when you find some Paulaner Maibock in the bottle...
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT made from Spaten cans from San Diego on 06/28/04
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My guess: Big brewery piss purchased at a low rate and labeled for suckers who don't know beer but want to buy it to be cool. Don't waste your taste buds and instead donate directly to the cause, skipping the beer completely.
Back to your regularly scheduled beer.
I think I'll go purchase some Stella to accompany dinner...
Posted by GC on 06/29/04
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So... how many more posts till 300?
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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hit FO last night for Jaba's b-day - GOD THOSE BURGERS (and sweet-potato fries) RULE! - Horny Devil started things off & Great White kept the party rolling......
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/09/04
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I was a bit buzzed...off of 4 beers last night and I can't understand why....I polished off 2 Stone Imperial Stouts, and 2 Guinness.
Hmmmmm.
:-D
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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#230
I'm havin' two shots of Corazon Anejo, and a pint of Lucifer...in exactly 2 hours...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/09/04
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I love Corazon. Very clean.
BTW-I'm headed to the river this weekend. Copius amounts of Jagermeister shall be consumed, as well as a couple dozen beers per day. Cheers!
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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Kern?
Have fun, either way...
Drink a shot of Jager for me...
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/09/04
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Colorado...Parker, AZ. The Kern is for people who can't handle the big engines, right Mac? ;-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/09/04
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NICE!!! Love Parker..
Was at Havasu a few weeks back...love the SandBar...!!! :-)
Posted by CrzyRidr3 a 32 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr on 07/09/04
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Things were quite good and swervy this weekend at Parker. It's great staying at a house in the keys where all of us are bartenders...."here, try this!" "OK, how about this?" OK, shot time for everyone!" Sheesh..I need 2 livers.
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engines are for people who can't handle whitewater....right Jiffy Pop?
and my swerve was large & in charge yesterday - good thing my girl's old enough to drive now! ;-)
Posted by Macrider a 37 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Turner RFX, XCE & Trek Bruiser 2 from LA on 07/12/04
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I'll help move this thing along (#241).
I may have to change my handle to BevMoHo at this point. Dropped by the holy shrine (Beverages and More in Irvine) this evening with EzyRider2, so now I'm prepared for whatever malted mood overcomes me. Current inventory:- Deschutes Black Butte Porter (tonight's first indulgence, mmm...mmm...good)
- Deschutes Obsidian Stout (will sample my 1st one tomorrow)
- Stone Pale Ale (a great everyday brew)
- Stone IPA (for those days I'm feelin' hoppy)
- Celebrator Doppelbock (still the most 'gasmic of the bunch)
- Spaten Optimator (need to compare to Celebrator -- review to come)
- Paulander Salvator Doppelbock (another to compare to the Celebrator)
- Pete's Wicked Ale (not up to the Stone Pale Ale level, but a classic)
- Pete's Strawberry Blond (keeping it around cuz the chicks seem to like it.)
- Redhook ESB (another good one, but overshadowed by other stand-outs)
- Blue Moon Belgian White (just okay, bought it when reminiscing about the old Blue Moon -- pre Coors days)
- Sierra Nevada Pale Ale ($20 bucks/case@Costco! How can ya pass it up???)
- Sierra Nevada Summerfest (Damn good lager; also @Costco for $20/case!)
- Orangboom (tried it, didn't like it; who wants it??)
- Belgian #1 - Piraat (dessert in a glass!)
- Belgian #2 - Bornem Double (need to try it)
- Belgian #3 - Bornem Triple (need to try it)
- Belgian #4 - Bruegel (need to try it)
- Belgian #5 - Gulden Draak (need to try it)
- Belgian #6 - Augustijn Trippel (need to... whoops, it's gone now.... smoooooth!)
- Pacifico (with chips and guacamole on a blazing hot day, okay???!!)
So, now we need 59 more...
Posted by VLander on 07/12/04
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V-Man, that was pretty classic bumping into each other on the German import aisle!
Tried both the Moylan's I picked up, highly recommended. The Irish Red was all that (and more) and the Kilt Lifter was perhaps the best beer I have tasted in a long time. Good find along the lines of Stone.
thinking of a having a tasting party with the rest of the cache.....you in?
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a full pint glass from arrogant bastard land on 07/12/04
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I'm all over an inventory analysis symposium (i.e. - tasting party). If this week, could it be held at Chez Boba's Liquid Lounge? (i.e. - our pool and spa area). Reason being: I'm watching the kiddos while me SO visits her mom in the hospital.
Let me know; I'll try to get Tumbleweed and a few other 949 neighbors to join...
Posted by VLander on 07/13/04
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I'm in for the sampling, and I can bring your Dopple. This weekend, or during the week? I'm thinking a lazy Saturday afternoon sounds good.... :-)
Posted by El Jefe on 07/13/04
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"BevMoHO" LOL! Much better than VLander.
So where are we going for the party? Nominations?
Posted by Endo Verendo riding a Pushed 4-Spot from The Valley on 07/13/04
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VL, very good advancement on your journey. Young one, keep up the study and when you can snatch the pebbles from my hand...
GCBY.....I noticed no Mexican crap in that load and a definate up in Belgian beers. Very impressive.
Tonight is an Old Speckled Hen clone. New Castle without the dark and with a bit more hop bite. Homebrewed of course. For you beer drinkers, the ride and benefit for Switchback Cyclery (Tim's cancer) and Tani at the Path will be August 8th. I will provide beer for free (donate to the cause or I will have my big dog lick you to death).
Got beer?
In the words of Jack Black:
Next.
Posted by GC riding a A big wheel from Anaslime Hills on 07/13/04
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I think this is, like, uh, like, totally, you know, like so number 228, know what I'm sayin'?
I had a Pete's Wicked Ale last night and was reminded what a bummer it has become. Not bad, not stanky, not great. Used to be great back when mah pappy done drank it.
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/09/04
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Reason #245 for some people to just go too far:
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/13/04
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sorry, 'knew' - vicodin.... ‡}
Posted by Schecky on 07/13/04
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Okay, I think you need to join our new advocacy club. It's name is Gravity Sucks.
Sorry to hear, bro.
Vitamin V, vitamin T and a lime will make it all better. Once you start to crap soft, ease up on the beer and pop more Vicoden.
You'll be so stoned off of the V that you won't know taste anyhow. Go cheap my man. A V and 3 beers is equal to a solid night at the Kitchen Club with after hours drinks.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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BTW, #262.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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I've got a few of those.....game? Not to mention about 40 gals of homebrew.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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Sounds like I need to head to his house soon...not now though, a 502 wouldn't be a good idea. Wow, these Imperial Stouts pack a punch. Between 2 of those and 3 Beck's, I'm feeling just fine...
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Beck's adhere's to the Rheinheitsgebot, and is a solid German Lager. I stand by my Beck's decision. Sure, I'd rather have a Stone, but if I'm drinking all night, it's a much better option than a Coor's Light, Bud whatever, or Miller Genuine Lite....
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Don't backtrack, Jiffy. Piss is piss. What about Stella or Urquell? Becks? Are you sure you weren't down to your last $5.00?
I had their Oktoberfest and it took over two years for it to be drinkable and I only had a sixer.
Nasty.
Posted by GC on 07/14/04
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OK, let's not factor in the Oktoberfest shiite... Pilsner Urquell would have been nice, but GRide was kind enough to bring a sixer of Beck's over to my place as we kicked back and played some guitar. I do enjoy the Pilsner Urquell and Stella Artois more than Beck's, but it's far from pisswater....ok, not THAT far, but it ain't bad in a pinch.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Alright, you didn't mention pinches.
You are forgiven. ;)
BTW, Sharen Stone still has it and then some......the Tonight Show.
Posted by GC on 07/14/04
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For a lager, I'd vote for a NZ Steinlager over a Beck's.
But, since it was brought over, you can't let it go to waste, and you have to make room for other beer..
Posted by Schecky on 07/14/04
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Thank you for understanding. I'm not a huge fan of Steinlager, or really any of the brews from down under. I'd say of the lighter brews, I'd say Pilsner Urquell is tops. I could drink it for days....oh wait, I have...... anyway, we're getting close to 300. Your turn.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Becks makes or made an Oktoberfest bier?
Posted by EBasil riding a Manitou HT from San Diego on 07/14/04
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Beck's Oktoberfest is miserable. If you have two years to spare, by all means buy a sixer (no more). I think there is still one or two sitting in the back of the beer fridge someplace.
Posted by GC riding a 292 on 07/14/04
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I had it once..... just once.
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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Stick to the Beck's Dark. That is pretty tasty stuff, and is easy to find. Not of a fan of the other Beck's offerings.
Posted by EzyRider2 riding a spot from da beach on 07/14/04
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You get immobilized in bed for a couple of days and the fridge priorities get all out of whack.
Rest assured, it is now going to a good home.
Posted by Schecky on 07/14/04
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Yeah, I know. It took me months to find the great beer through the Vicoden haze.
Posted by GC on 07/14/04
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I'm in for the club, but which one of you two will be the President?
Posted by Schecky on 07/13/04
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Jiffy has me beat by far. He may be short but that bastard busts up like a Ken doll with a pocket full of fire crackers.
I defer.
Posted by GC on 07/13/04
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OK, that reply thread was getting a bit too slim. I missed Sharon, but Conan's monologue is pretty funny...of course, the sprinklers coming on right now is pretty funny.....AHHHHH Stone Imperial Stout....
Posted by El Jefe on 07/14/04
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